Comments on: Pageviews are dead … and Miley Cyrus killed them. https://www.mediavine.com/blog/pageviews-dead-miley-cyrus-killed/ Full Service Ad Management Thu, 29 May 2025 18:44:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: Chris https://www.mediavine.com/blog/pageviews-dead-miley-cyrus-killed/#comment-6615 Wed, 23 Jan 2019 05:10:38 +0000 https://www.mediavine.com/?p=1077#comment-6615 If we were in a world of perfect analytics data, what metric would you use?

Session duration? Or something like total page acreage (number of square pixels seen by users)? Or some combo of those or other measures?

It would seem session duration would be preferable to total sessions since it adjusts for quick bounces and rewards extended engagement. I’d love to be able to see RPMM (rev / thousand minutes)… if only session duration wasn’t wildly inaccurate in GA.

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By: Jenny Guy https://www.mediavine.com/blog/pageviews-dead-miley-cyrus-killed/#comment-2990 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:37:48 +0000 https://www.mediavine.com/?p=1077#comment-2990 In reply to Nathaniell.

Thanks Nathaniell! We do what we can and we’re always open for feedback and improvements. We rely heavily on our publishers for that.

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By: Nathaniell https://www.mediavine.com/blog/pageviews-dead-miley-cyrus-killed/#comment-2981 Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:05:08 +0000 https://www.mediavine.com/?p=1077#comment-2981 Glad to see MediaVine is working to create a better ad experience for the users so they can continue to enjoy the content they read/watch, creators can continue to get paid, and advertisers are happy with how their money is getting spent.

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By: How I Made $338 in My 5th Month Blogging - The Frugal Farm Girl https://www.mediavine.com/blog/pageviews-dead-miley-cyrus-killed/#comment-711 Sun, 02 Jul 2017 01:35:47 +0000 https://www.mediavine.com/?p=1077#comment-711 […] Pageviews– 5,955 (EXTREMELY EXCITED! My goal was to hit over 4,000!  ) Sessions-4,293- I care more about sessions than page views. My goal is to reach 25,000 sessions a month by […]

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By: My First Income Report- How I made $305 During my 4th Month Blogging - The Frugal Farm Girl https://www.mediavine.com/blog/pageviews-dead-miley-cyrus-killed/#comment-145 Mon, 06 Mar 2017 17:56:15 +0000 https://www.mediavine.com/?p=1077#comment-145 […] Pageviews– 3,858 ( Down from 4,030 in January ) Sessions-2,976- I care more about sessions than page views. My goal is to reach 25,000 sessions a month by […]

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By: Fitness Blog - Coffee Talk https://www.mediavine.com/blog/pageviews-dead-miley-cyrus-killed/#comment-144 Mon, 06 Mar 2017 14:41:12 +0000 https://www.mediavine.com/?p=1077#comment-144 […] Here is an article that dives into this a little more (Katy Widrick sent it out in her newsletter this week):  Page views are Dead… […]

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By: Eric Hochberger https://www.mediavine.com/blog/pageviews-dead-miley-cyrus-killed/#comment-134 Mon, 27 Feb 2017 12:52:40 +0000 https://www.mediavine.com/?p=1077#comment-134 In reply to Lory at Designthusiasm.

Hey Lory,

I don’t think we mean to say that only sessions matter and page views don’t. Headlines are meant to be a bit shocking and over exaggerated.

Our primary message here is obsessing over your site’s total pageviews isn’t painting the full picture. Nor would JUST be looking at sessions and just swapping the two. We’re simply encouraging you to look to sessions as your new primary metric, but supplementing it with other metrics about your site for the full picture. In fact, pages / session are one of the metrics you should look at for your success.

Most of us are content creators and aren’t running Facebook. Our goals should be realistic. Bring a user to your site and focus on their experience with that page. Did they finish reading the article, did they find more content they wanted to consume (that second pageview), or did they sign up for our newsletter or share our post?

Obsessing over getting that one user to click on 10+ pageviews in a slideshow or jumping through hoops to finish reading the content they came for isn’t a useful user experience, nor stat. However, if your sole metric was pageviews that would become the goal. That’s our point. Look beyond the pageview.

Unfortunately, from an advertiser perspective, unique visitors are more valuable than return users because that extends their “reach.” However, I don’t think that’s our claim with this article. A repeat visitor that comes back is a second session and therefore just as valuable with his new primary metric.

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By: Lory at Designthusiasm https://www.mediavine.com/blog/pageviews-dead-miley-cyrus-killed/#comment-131 Sun, 26 Feb 2017 04:05:02 +0000 https://www.mediavine.com/?p=1077#comment-131 In reply to Heather Tullos.

I agree with that, but then it’s inaccurate to say that only sessions matter and page views don’t, which is exactly what people are saying and quoting this article as proof. (Likely because that’s exactly what your title intimates.)

You said “the first reader increased the session length and decreased your bounce rate”. Yes, they did this by increasing page views. You may not be calling it that, but that’s exactly what you’re describing.

Perhaps one might get the same effect if the visitor was either a very slow reader and stayed on one page or the phone rang and they walked away from the screen, but in any case, I don’t see the advantage to staying on one page over visiting multiple pages.

Finally, I don’t get why unique visitors are more valuable than return visitors. Sometimes it takes more than one impression to buy. What am I missing?

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By: Eric Hochberger https://www.mediavine.com/blog/pageviews-dead-miley-cyrus-killed/#comment-120 Wed, 22 Feb 2017 14:55:26 +0000 https://www.mediavine.com/?p=1077#comment-120 In reply to Karen.

Definitely agree that unique visitors and sessions are more valuable to advertisers as well. From a blogger’s perspective, this can and should mean the same amount of income. Ads are paid on an impression basis and are not tied directly to sessions or pageviews. We simply calculate a RPM based off those concept so we can measure overall success of how optimizations are going.

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By: Karen https://www.mediavine.com/blog/pageviews-dead-miley-cyrus-killed/#comment-119 Wed, 22 Feb 2017 14:38:44 +0000 https://www.mediavine.com/?p=1077#comment-119 I always thought Unique Visitors and Sessions made more sense than Pageviews since unique visitors visiting the site means more exposure than one visitor clicking thru multiple pages at one visit. As a media buyer, I’d prefer the Session model. But as a blogger, this could mean less income, unless you calibrate the pricing structure accordingly.

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